[JamesStein]

Article marketing is not what most think it is and when it comes to marketing with articles 90% of the people get it wrong. Mostly these 90% purchased some lame bum marketing ebook or listened to some lame self proclaimed expert on a forum.

What really amazes me is how these 90% continue to fall for the lame crap that is posted or written in an ebook. I see so many that will sit there and praise the dude that released the Bum Marketing ebook and every time I think to myself how dumb can you be...

This is not an attack on the dude that released the ebook but I will say he is no expert as many claim, sorry but truth is truth. I guess bum marketing was a great name for it though because many have been taught to slap an article on the lame EZA and the money will come rolling in.

Ha! Wrong... I laugh when I see many that claim to have top listings in google with just posting to EZA and then I go a look at their lame poorly written articles just to find they have got about 20 article views in 90 days.

Sure you have top listing and no work involved but posting to EZA, guess what ? Your keyword has no searches The only one you are fooling is yourself and you are losing money while fooling yourself.

True Article Marketing has nothing to do with posting to EZA and waiting on top listings. This is the worst advice (besides mass submit to lame article dashboard directories) I have ever heard on article marketing.

The truth be told very few actually make a good living from EZA (some abuse the sites TOS and think they are smart but they only showing what type of person they really are) as most may see a sale here ad there and that is about it.

EZA has 1.1 Million keywords in google (this number is going lower and lower each day) and less than 10% is actually anyplace near the front page.

True article marketing has to do with formatting your article properly, submitting to ad free network of sites that are promoted, using proper keyword research, and actually taking the time to bookmark your article and market it. It is called "marketing" for a reason ...

James

[JamesStein]

850+ views and not one freaking reply .... Man tough crowd!

James

[Jim Gillum]

Originally Posted by JamesStein

850+ views and not one freaking reply .... Man tough crowd!

James

Maybe if you added some music.......

Seriously.......I agree with your post and I would have to believe that many others did as well...
But simply replying with "Great post" is generally limited to the "junkier" forum.....

And 850 views "ain't" shabby......

[JamesStein]

Yeah Mary might start to play the violins again .....lol

James

Originally Posted by Jim Gillum

Maybe if you added some music.......

Seriously.......I agree with your post and I would have to believe that many others did as well...
But simply replying with "Great post" is generally limited to the "junkier" forum.....

And 850 views "ain't" shabby......

[tmgenterprises]

When used correctly, EZA can be a good tool but James, you're right that most don't use that tool correctly. I agree with you that using an ad free network can be more helpful but it does depend on that network.

People slap up a 300 word article and expect a miracle to happen. Or they post them just for backlinks. Hey, that sort of thing keeps ghostwriters in business so more power to them but it's short-sighted.

I'd rather write a really high quality article that actually gets picked up by real websites. The backlinks are worth a whole lot more that way then just being posted to a bunch of directories no one ever reads.

As to the bum marketing, it's a great idea but it's not a business. Some have decided that is their business model which is just plain silly. My understanding of the original method was that this was a way to get started, in order to get some money coming in and then build a real business. There are too many people stuck there, slapping up crap all over the web, instead of going on to build a real, lasting business.

Tina

[Admin]

Violins? Again?

Lol I might if you don't behave yourself.

Originally Posted by JamesStein

Yeah Mary might start to play the violins again .....lol

James

[JamesStein]

But .. Mom I was being good .....

James

Originally Posted by Admin

Violins? Again?

Lol I might if you don't behave yourself.

[Admin]

Originally Posted by JamesStein

But .. Mom I was being good .....

James

Lol - that's not what I heard here lately.

Btw before I forget, we caught 97 3' long Blue fish yesterday. Had one heck of a day fishing!

[JamesStein]

Hey I had no bad thoughts when I was making Trixy .. If you heard otherwise it is a Lie! A Lie I tell you!

Must be nice to go fishing, glad you had a wonderful time ....

James

Originally Posted by Admin

Lol - that's not what I heard here lately.

Btw before I forget, we caught 97 3' long Blue fish yesterday. Had one heck of a day fishing!

[Admin]

Lol that's not what Trixy says.

And yes, it was nice to get away. We've been trying to get together for the past 8 years to charter a boat, but this was the only year that worked out for us.

I'll have to post some pictures once I get the camera back from my nephew.

Originally Posted by JamesStein

Hey I had no bad thoughts when I was making Trixy .. If you heard otherwise it is a Lie! A Lie I tell you!

Must be nice to go fishing, glad you had a wonderful time ....

James

[JMPruitt]

The only reason I use any article directories is to get picked up by other marketers. I have had several articles posted on directories with over 100 republishes on them. however, they were high quality articles, and the reason I chose the sites that I did was becauase of the republish rate I had with them.
otherwise, I stick with my own blogs, and social sites to build article backlinks. I will also spend an hour or two blog commenting on keyword luv enabled blogs.

[Admin]

James,

Lol it is always a tough crowd over here.

Originally Posted by JamesStein

850+ views and not one freaking reply .... Man tough crowd!

James

[JMPruitt]

Originally Posted by JamesStein

But .. Mom I was being good .....

James

James, now you are making up lies on top of everything else.
YOu have never been good in the whole time I have known you.

you are always up to something, and trying bash down other marketers and that unnamed article directory that you cannot stand.

[JamesStein]

Oh come on I am good sometimes...

I do not bash other marketers, just wannabes, posers, fakers, newbie screwers, and etc... the unnamed article directory just sucks, I mean I did try it and got nothing out of it...

James

Originally Posted by JMPruitt

James, now you are making up lies on top of everything else.
YOu have never been good in the whole time I have known you.

you are always up to something, and trying bash down other marketers and that unnamed article directory that you cannot stand.

[JMPruitt]

Thats the problem though James, you get nothing out of something so you go off and claim that nobody can.

sometimes your reasonings are valid, but we have to agree to disagree sometimes. There are things that you say wont work, that i do because they make me money. Everyones "facts' about what works and doesnt work is different because most people, (yourself included) cant tell the difference between a fact and an opinion.

now, I trust and respect your opinion, but it is still an opinion, which you have facts to back up. but your facts that you focus on are slanted to what you focus on the most.

One great example here is Wordpress. you don't like opens ource because of the security, for you, this can be overcome because you can simply code something better.

Most of us newbies dont know how to do that, and frankly arent interested in learning it. I am not out to learn everything, I learn the basics that I need to get by and outsource to an expert when I can.

To me, the ease of use is more important than the security problems. I guess that will change if i get hacked, but it hasn't happened yet. From looking into it myself, the occurrences of people getting hacked is lower than you make it out to be. I know people who have used wp for years on multiple sites, and never had a problem.

So, we have different opinions, supported by the facts that we focus on. i also see that you often jump to calling someone a poser and claiming that they lie about what they are making or doing, when you really don't know if they are or not. I agree some of them do lie about how much they make but not everyone out there does

[JamesStein]

You're right but I also can see through alot of these people and I also know many of the things that go on in the background that most do not. Thus why I can call someone a poser...

Do posers make money ? Well sure they do.. Do they make it ethically ? Well depends upon what you call ethical. If stealing the last bit of money from someone and selling them a dream is ethical to you then I guess that would be ethical, to me it is not...

I can tell you now and Mary can even back me up on this... Many of those posers I know for a fact to be posers due to what goes on in the background such as at that not mentioned forum. Mary knows exactly what I am talking about... Most of this stuff many will never see, but I have so thus I go by the information which is actually facts...

As for open source yep .. I dislike it but not only due to security. I have had scripts stolen from me that I developed as open source years ago. Just to find some lame marketer claiming it as theirs and claiming they spent $5,000 to have it created.

There is alot I have seen, done, and been through in my 25 years on here.. So most of it is not opinion. It may seem like it is due to the fact that many never see the darker side of things.

You would be surprised to know how many of those marketers I actually do know what their income is....

I may be very opinionated but I see many things others do not and I got sick of newbies being ripped off many years ago. So if I can keep them from being ripped off then I will do what is needed to get them on the right path...

James

Originally Posted by JMPruitt

Thats the problem though James, you get nothing out of something so you go off and claim that nobody can.

sometimes your reasonings are valid, but we have to agree to disagree sometimes. There are things that you say wont work, that i do because they make me money. Everyones "facts' about what works and doesnt work is different because most people, (yourself included) cant tell the difference between a fact and an opinion.

now, I trust and respect your opinion, but it is still an opinion, which you have facts to back up. but your facts that you focus on are slanted to what you focus on the most.

One great example here is Wordpress. you don't like opens ource because of the security, for you, this can be overcome because you can simply code something better.

Most of us newbies dont know how to do that, and frankly arent interested in learning it. I am not out to learn everything, I learn the basics that I need to get by and outsource to an expert when I can.

To me, the ease of use is more important than the security problems. I guess that will change if i get hacked, but it hasn't happened yet. From looking into it myself, the occurrences of people getting hacked is lower than you make it out to be. I know people who have used wp for years on multiple sites, and never had a problem.

So, we have different opinions, supported by the facts that we focus on. i also see that you often jump to calling someone a poser and claiming that they lie about what they are making or doing, when you really don't know if they are or not. I agree some of them do lie about how much they make but not everyone out there does